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Post by number19 on Feb 24, 2011 20:48:52 GMT 10
In March there will be a series of meetings to discuss the Car Spec. rules for 2011.Each class will have its own separate meeting.Members are urged to attend meetings for the particular class or classes of car that they have invested in as the Car Spec.rules will be finalised at this series of meetings.
Meeting Dates:
AMCA Tuesday March 22
DirtMod/Buggy Wednesday March 23
Speedcars Tuesday March29
Sprintcar and Sedans Wednesday March 30
Venue: Luddenham Club Room
Time: Each meeting will commence promptly at 7.30PM and will be concluded by 9.30PM
It is suggested that the draft proposals as issued by Jose Beatriz on October 22 2010 should be reviewed by members prior to the meetings
Bryan Hunt
Secretary
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Post by grahame13 on Feb 24, 2011 21:03:16 GMT 10
When are we going to have a race calendar and race days?  no use having new rules when we dont have a calendar!! the weekday meetings do not suit all of us and i myself have racing comitments every tuesday night at another track!! so that excludes me from both amca and speedcar meetings, this is unfair as i race in both classes and the members should of been asked about their comittments and asked their opinion before being told the meetings are on the day and planned by who?? I also believe all members should have the right to have a say in all classes as they may be part of that class one day and should have a choice of when the meetings are going to be held. just my 2 cents worth!! what does everyone else think? |
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Post by ando on Feb 25, 2011 15:46:17 GMT 10
just a couple of quick questions 1. where is luddenham clubhouse 2.why are sedans & sprintcarson the same night 3. why are we being asked to review the rules jose drafted when only six people bothered to reply back then and two members wrote multi page letters critisizing them  |
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Post by greg on Feb 25, 2011 17:52:30 GMT 10
I cannot attend the meetings either, so what's wrong with using proxy?
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Post by PeterR on Feb 25, 2011 18:13:59 GMT 10
Will there be elections for the division reps?.
Sprintcars and sedans on the same night well that speaks for itself, why not have speedcars/midgets on the same night beacuse i have tech on tuesday nights therefore i would only miss 1 tech night not 2. Pete.
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Post by laurie27 on Feb 26, 2011 9:16:59 GMT 10
I cannot attend the meetings either, so what's wrong with using proxy? Hi Greg. As you know our dirt mod specs were close to done, bar voting, would you and anyother driver like to pm or email your thought on them (dirt mod). Laurie |
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Post by laurie27 on Feb 26, 2011 9:21:49 GMT 10
Will there be elections for the division reps?. Sprintcars and sedans on the same night well that speaks for itself, why not have speedcars/midgets on the same night beacuse i have tech on tuesday nights therefore i would only miss 1 tech night not 2. Pete. Yes uncle Pete, I believe once we clear up the regs, the new reps must be elected. Anyone interested??? Thers a dirt mod rep up for grabs ;D C u tomorrow |
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Post by sharyn29 on Feb 26, 2011 11:01:23 GMT 10
we shouldnt need class reps once the car specs are in place
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Post by robhod on Feb 26, 2011 15:40:11 GMT 10
i vote we need class reps. it is not fair for a section leader to have 40 odd members come complaining to one person. With class reps they can take the problems to the Section Leader, Assistant Section Leader etc
Thanks my thoughts anyway.
at least with the notice we have been given for the meetings there can be no complaints that sufficient time was not given. Lets all be Honest the rules that Jose had together are probably 99% of the way there!!
We all really need to be more positive and stick together as a club.
Rob
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Post by greg on Feb 26, 2011 19:34:09 GMT 10
Agreed Rob, they were 99% of the way, just a few tweaks here and there.
Laurie , will PM you tomorrow with some thoughts on the dirt mods.
Greg
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Post by laurie27 on Feb 28, 2011 8:33:09 GMT 10
i vote we need class reps. it is not fair for a section leader to have 40 odd members come complaining to one person. With class reps they can take the problems to the Section Leader, Assistant Section Leader etc Thanks my thoughts anyway. at least with the notice we have been given for the meetings there can be no complaints that sufficient time was not given. Lets all be Honest the rules that Jose had together are probably 99% of the way there!! We all really need to be more positive and stick together as a club. Rob So true Rob, I believe we need reps, they may not do much until Nov or December, if or when amendment are needed for 2011 but I believe we need them, IMO. What we also must remember that race reg aside your current class reps drafted up those specs (with input from all members). Jose had those specs as DRAFTS ONLY it up to us all to get this finalized once & for all. My 5 cents worth ;D As always IMO Laurie |
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Post by ando on Feb 28, 2011 14:35:29 GMT 10
laurie your comment (with input from all members) is how it should be but most members have commitments during the week and would prefer meetings on a sunday. one member was told yesterday that was when they were being held and it wasn't negoatible,if it's not negoatible how can we have input from all members. i think we should have one meeting either on the next open day or the sunday before and urge all members to voice there preference and let the majority decide then we can get on with having some fun and stop talking crap. |
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Post by laurie27 on Mar 11, 2011 12:22:20 GMT 10
Hi guys & gals.
The 1/4 scale section meetings (re specs) scheduled for this month will be rescheduled at a latter time. I'm sorry, however I don't have anymore information at this time.
Laurie
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Post by grahame13 on Mar 15, 2011 20:25:16 GMT 10
Laurie I am a little confused and I reckon some others maybe as well. We have been told since the beginning of this year we would be informed as certain members have stated that in the past members did not have a say or did not hear what is going on within our section. I have to ask the question of why i was told the planned class meetings were not negotiable by the secretary and that i was not committed or loyal for not being able to attend due to prior commitments. You have now put a post here and we are being told the meetings are cancelled without any reason or explanation? Is the committee going to inform our section members what is happening and get into gear and show the members some of their commitment by letting us know what is happening? I also would like to know when is a schedule or race calendar draft going to be distributed?? Grahame |
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Post by laurie27 on Mar 16, 2011 8:22:40 GMT 10
Hi Grahame.
Rob received a letter of concern about our meetings. He is seeking information as to the correct procedure to go about things.
Until I hear how he goes I wont know any more. When all this gets cleared up I hope things can come together smoothly.
Yes Grahame we need to get things moving.
Laurie
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Post by ando on Mar 16, 2011 14:59:13 GMT 10
Hi Laurie buddy I thought that all the info to run meetings is in the SSME Rules and By-laws as well as rules on anything to do with the SSME. Please someone tell me if I am wrong. |
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Post by THE BANDIT on Mar 16, 2011 20:09:58 GMT 10
HI ALL.GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THIS POST,SOMEONE WAS SAYING ALL MEMBERS SHOULD VOTE FOR ALL RACING CLASSES.I DISAGREE, A COUPLE OF MEMBERS GOT THERE NOSE OUT OF JOINT WHEN THEY SAW A RACE CAR IN NSW HAVING THERE CHASSIS,PAN,OR FRAME BUILT FROM ALUMINIUM,THEY BROUGHT THE COMPLAINT HOME TO THE WEST AND DECIDED TO BRING THE DICUSSION UP AT THE 2010 AGM.DURING THE DEBATE THE PREDATOR SPRINTCAR WAS BROUGHT INTO THE ARGUMENT BECAUSE OF ITS ALUMINIUM CHASSIS.NOW THE PREDATOR HAS BEEN BAND FROM THE NO 1 TRACK IN AUSTRALIA,TMS HENDERSON SPEEDWAY,HENDERSON.THEREFORE RACING DRIVER MEMBERS SHOULD VOTE FOR THERE RACING CLASS ONLY. THANKS "THE BANDIT"
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Post by PeterR on Mar 17, 2011 6:29:33 GMT 10
Why shouldnt they ban the Predator style of chassis.. I was of the impression that quarter scale speedway was to try and copy our big brothers in the looks department? Maybe i am as silly as some people think i am but when was the last time you actually saw any type of aluminium Sprintcar let alone a slab sided monstrostity that looks nothing like a sprintcar race anywhere in the world??? I think if you have a CLUB then ALL members should have a say in matters that concern everyone NOT just a few who are trying to get what they want for there particular class. And there is no need to yell Jim we can all read what you are typing. Thanks Pete.
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Post by robhod on Mar 17, 2011 7:15:42 GMT 10
Well everyone is free to have their own opinion BUT why should anyone concern themselves what other classes rules are if they don't run in that class? (that's my opinion)
Where do we stop with being like the real thing? Then we should have direct drive no pull starters and push start the cars, where do I buy an angle grinder to put in a 410ci real sprint car? Spark plugs sticking out of bonnets, wheels that we use that are too small ? Some chassis have 3/8 tube some 1/2" does that fit into real sprint car rules? ban all the cars that have open exposed chains running down the side?
Maybe we rule cars MUST be diff drive?
Allowing everyone to vote in all classes is only to allow people to GANG up on others to run them out. what sort of club is that?
We all really need to let the NEW committee get things going and stop complaining all the time otherwise I am sure they will not be interested in doing the job. A lot of members are not real keen on doing anything at the moment due to all the complaining. If we want to race lets STOP the bitching plan a working bee or some team building exercise and move on or there will never be the number out at the track again for years!!
Maybe we should vote then to see if members want to vote in all classes?
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Post by grahame13 on Mar 17, 2011 10:01:40 GMT 10
Rob One way to stop bitching is to communicate with people. The new committee are not doing a very good job at that now are they? The committee has made a decision to hold class meetings regarding rules without any consultation with the members. Those meetings have now been cancelled? What is the reason? Are the members entitled to know?? You have to ask why the new committee is trying to use the rules put together by Jose. It seems we are just putting Jose's plans into motion and I think thats great, but why did we not let Jose do it last year? ? I think Jose did a fantastic job last year and everyone pointed the finger and now we have a new committee that cant even get a calendar together or even communicate to the members by letting us know what is happening on this forum. I still believe all members have a right to vote on any decision within a club, its our club! Never forget the fact we are all members and are all entitled to have a say. |
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Post by josebeatriz on Mar 17, 2011 12:19:02 GMT 10
JUST SO NO ONE MISUNDERSTANDS - YES I AM SHOUTING
BANDIT, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, THE ISSUE YOU MENTIONED WAS STARTED IN WA WITH WA MEMBERS QUESTIONING THE LEGALITY OF A "SEDAN", YES GEOFF BOOTH'S SEDAN. NOTHING TO DO WITH A SPRINTCAR.
FOR THE RECORD, THAT SEDAN MEET ALL CURRENT RULES FOR NSW AND I PERSONALY BACKED GEOFF, HE USED THE SYSTEM HE DID NOT ABUSE IT.
AS FOR PLATE SPRINTCARS, I WAS TOLD IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN AROUND IN WA FOR A LONG TIME. NOTHING TO DO WITH NSW OR ANY OTHER STATE FOR THAT MATTER.
Now for all the other comments on this thread.
I advise all NSW members of the Sydney Society of Model Engineers Inc. to read very carefuly the Rules and By-laws of the Society before any further comments are made in public. Many of you are either misinformed or have not taken the time to understand what you have agreed to abide by once you signed the membership form.
As for everyone else, this is the world wide web and all are entitled to their personal opinion, that said, make sure you have your facts right if you are going to comment on something that might not concern you.
Bridges are very easy to burn, but take a very very long time to rebuild, everyone should concider these words before they take to the keyboard in future.
Jose Beatriz
Member of Quarter Scale Cars, a Section of the Sydney Society of Model Engineers Inc.
Secretary of Sydney Society of Model Engineers Inc.
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